Dec 3, 2019
What
is it like to plan your living son's funeral? What is it like to
grieve a loved one who hasn't died?
In Part 2 of my interview with Jessica McCurdy, we talk about
about how culture sees addiction: moral failure vs disease. Jessica
gives us an incredible word picture of this disease - how it is a
miracle when a person is staying out of active addiction, and how
we can change our language to better honor those coping with this
disease and its effects. She also explains that active addiction is
about grief; you are not only losing the person but also
experiences they will never have with their loved one.
Show Notes
00:08:00
*00:59:00 me: this is a disease – how are we seeing this as a
culture: moral failure, a choice, deficit in character :
00:09:00 Cancer, MS, Lupus – “they are a survivor or a
warrior”, Cancer – we feel bad with no moral failure, addiction
moral failure because they have to put something in our body – the
addiction starts before anything is put into the body – Addiction
is in the disease model
The first choice was an actual “choice”
00:13:00 admitting they are powerless against that drug –
affects the survival part of the brain –
00:15:00 She calls Camron a survivor – it’s a miracle
that someone stays clean – breathing underwater
00:16:00 Active Addiction – Changing our language – if
there is not a cure then he will always be an addict – she will not
support him during this time
00:18:00 Symptoms of addiction lying, manipulating,
cheating, stealing, commiting crimes – symptoms of cancer treatment
nausea, lethargy, taste of copper
00:19:00 Her fears to tell us what she wishes we knew –
She felt very alone – not many parents speak up about what’s going
on because of the shame
00:22:22 in AL-Anon she could pray he would die –
mourning a living person
00:23:17 grief groups in church turned her away – she
didn’t want to grieve alone
00:24:20 you don’t know where you belong in the church – she
wanted hope from the church –
00:25:00 She started to miss church all the time because
she would cry – her current church are comfortable with tears – the
old church system didn’t have a culture that made it safe to be in
pain
00:29:20 Kathleen: the culture of church needs to be changed –
we watch what happens to others in pain and decide whether church
is safe in our pain
00:30:35 What she wishes we knew about the grief – "what would
feel good to you?"
00:33:00 we’re grieving like we lost someone – she lost
graduation, proms, football,
The loss is repeated over & over – they are in fear all the
time (PTSD) – they are warriors/fighters
00:35:00 what could we practically do and what should we not
do:
Hurtful Words to Stay Away From
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“What drugs is he using?” – the path & consequence could be
the same –
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“Is it just alcohol?”
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“Addiction is such a stronghold. Just trust God.”
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“He’ll be okay. He’ll find his way. He has a good mama.” –
this feeds into her codependency – addiction is not either good or
bad, it’s a disease
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“Is he doing good now?”
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“Oh really, Camron doesn’t seem like that type of kid?"
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“You’re so strong; you’ll get through this.”
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“Camron is a good kid; he’ll come out the other side."
00:44:40 “My son is going to die before I do.” – this is a
real possibility – she’s already planned his funeral
Helpful Words to Say
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"I’m so sorry. My heart hurts for your mama’s heart."
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"I wish I could take away all this pain for you."
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"I’m crying with you. How can I be here for you?"
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"This must be so devastating."
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"How can I love you through this?" - Jessica's favorite
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00:49:00 How is Camron doing now?
00:52:55 Big Reveal
PLEASE REMEMBER:
Supporting a Friend who has a Loved One battling
Active Addiction and/or Recovery
Advice from other moms:
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stand by her, don't judge her or her son or daughter.
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I wish they would know that coffee dates and going to the
movies and taking her to lunch may be the thing that keeps her
going for one more day.
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Inviting her to get a pedicure she can’t afford because all
her money is being spent on a rehab or counselor,
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going for a walk with her to get her mind off things.
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Remember no one brings them a casserole when their child is
going to rehab.
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Just be a friend like you would if she had lost a child and is
grieving because she is.
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Know this is a game changer. Her life won’t be the same but it
can be better with the Lord. As she finds her identity in Him and
not in whether her child is successful and beats their addiction or
doesn’t.
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Laugh with her when she laughs and cry with her when she cries
but whatever you do, don’t avoid her.
Jessica's Book Recommendation
Jessica's Church
How to Reach Out to Jessica:
Resources for Those Supporting Someone in
Recovery
Facebook Support Groups:
Kathleen's Workbook -
Embrace You: A Guide to Uncovering the Real
You
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